Bava Batra 11

Chapter 11

א או דילמא במקום חזקה לא אמרינן מה לי לשקר תא שמע בחזקת שנתן עד שיביא ראיה שלא נתן
1 or is the rule that where there is such a presumption we do not advance this plea? — Come and hear: EACH IS PRESUMED TO HAVE GIVEN HIS SHARE UNTIL THE OTHER BRINGS PROOF THAT HE HAS NOT GIVEN. How are we to understand this? Are we to suppose that the claim was made some time after the payment fell due, and the defendant pleads, I paid you when it fell due?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' When the wall was finished. ');"><sup>1</sup></span>
ב היכי דמי אילימא שתבעו לאחר זמן ואמר לו פרעתיך בזמני פשיטא אלא לאו דאמר ליה פרעתיך בתוך זמני אלמא אפילו במקום חזקה אמרינן מה לי לשקר שאני הכא דכל שפא ושפא זמניה הוא
2 Then this is self-evident. We must suppose then that he pleads, I paid you before the time of payment; from which we would infer that even where there is a presumption against the defendant, we plead [on his behalf], What motive has he to tell a lie? The case here is different, because with every layer [that is finished some] payment becomes due.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore he does not really plead that he paid before the time. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ג ת"ש מד' אמות ולמעלה אין מחייבין אותו סמך לו כותל אחר כו' עד שיביא ראיה שנתן
3 Come and hear: FOR REBUILDING HIGHER THAN FOUR CUBITS NEITHER CAN BE COMPELLED [TO CONTRIBUTE]. IF, HOWEVER, HE BUILDS ANOTHER WALL CLOSE TO IT&nbsp;… UNTIL HE ADDUCES PROOF THAT HE HAS GIVEN. How are we to understand this? Are we to suppose that the claim is made some time after and the defendant pleads, I paid you when the money fell due? If so, why [should we] not [believe him]? We must suppose therefore that he pleads, I paid you before the time of payment, [and yet he has to contribute]; which would show [would it not] that where there is a presumption [against him], we do not plead [on his behalf], What motive has he to tell a lie? — Here the case is different, because he can say to himself, How do I know that the Rabbis will compel me to pay?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. p. 19 n. 7. ');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ד היכי דמי אילימא שתבעו לאחר זמנו ואמר לו פרעתיך בזמני אמאי לא אלא לאו דאמר פרעתיך בתוך זמני אלמא במקום חזקה לא אמרינן מה לי לשקר שאני הכא דאמר מי יימר דמחייבי לי רבנן
4 Said R. Aha the son of Raba to R. Ashi: Come and hear [this]: [If a man says to another], You owe me a <i>maneh</i>, and the other says, That is so, and if on the next day when the lender says, Give it to me, the borrower pleads, I have given it to you, he is quit, but if he says, I do not owe you anything,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'Nothing of yours is in my hand'. ');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ה א"ל רב אחא בריה דרבא לרב אשי ת"ש מנה לי בידך אמר לו הין למחר אמר לו תנהו לי אם אמר נתתיו לך פטור אין לך בידי חייב
5 he is liable to pay. Now the expression, 'I have given it to you' is equivalent, is it not, to 'I paid when it fell due', and the expression, 'I do not owe you anything'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'Nothing of yours is in my hand'. ');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ו מאי לאו נתתיו לך דא"ל פרעתיך בזמני אין לך בידי דא"ל פרעתיך בתוך זמני וקתני חייב אלמא במקום חזקה לא אמרינן מה לי לשקר לא מאי אין לך בידי לא היו דברים מעולם דאמר מר כל האומר לא לויתי כאומר לא פרעתי דמי:
6 to 'I paid you before it fell due'; and we are told that in the latter case he is liable; which would show that where there is a presumption [against him]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The presumption that a debtor does not pay before the time. ');"><sup>5</sup></span>
ז סמך לו כותל אחר מגלגלין עליו את הכל כו': א"ר הונא סמך לפלגא סמך לכולה ורב נחמן אמר למאי דסמך סמך למאי דלא סמך לא סמך
7 we do not plead [on his behalf], what motive has he to tell a lie? — Not so: the expression 'I do not owe you anything' means 'I never borrowed from you,'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'The thing never happened'. ');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ח ומודה רב הונא בקרנא ולופתא ומודה ר"נ באפריזא ובקבעתא דכשורי
8 [and therefore he is liable] because a Master has laid down that to say 'I have not borrowed' is equivalent to saying 'I have not paid'.
ט אמר רב הונא בי כוי לא הוי חזקה ואע"ג דעבד ליה הימלטי דא"ל אמינא לכי פייסת לי לא ליתרע אשיתאי
9 IF HE PUTS UP ANOTHER WALL CLOSE TO IT, THE COST OF THE WHOLE DEVOLVES ON HIM. R. Huna said: If the second wall matches half [the first wall],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., if it is built up to half the same length or height. ');"><sup>7</sup></span>
י אמר ר"נ אחזיק להורדי לא אחזיק לכשורי לכשורי אחזיק להורדי רב יוסף אמר אחזיק להורדי אחזיק לכשורי
10 it is the same as if it matched the whole.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And he has to contribute to the cost of the whole, the reason being that in all probability he will subsequently finish it and make a roofing. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
יא איכא דאמרי אמר רב נחמן אחזיק להורדי אחזיק לכשורי לכשורי אחזיק להורדי
11 R. Nahman, however, said that where it matches it matches, and where it does not it does not.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And he only pays proportionately to the amount he has built. ');"><sup>9</sup></span>
יב אמר רב נחמן אחזיק לנטפי אחזיק לשפכי אחזיק לשפכי לא אחזיק לנטפי ורב יוסף אמר אפילו אחזיק לשפכי אחזיק לנטפי
12 R. Huna, however, admits [that R. Nahman's ruling applies] to a projection joined on to a house;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Apparently what is referred to is a wall which the other neighbour (the one who did not raise the party wall) builds out from his own house parallel to the party wall. As it is evident that he has no intention of extending this, he contributes to the increased height of the party wall only in proportion to its height or length. Another explanation is he joins two walls already existing. V. Aruch and Levy S.v. [H] ');"><sup>10</sup></span>
יג איכא דאמרי אמר רב נחמן אחזיק לשפכי אחזיק לנטפי לנטפי אחזיק לשפכי אבל לצריפא דאורבני לא רב יוסף אמר אפילו צריפא דאורבני עבד רב יוסף עובדא בצריפא דאורבני
13 and R. Nahman admits [that R. Huna's ruling applies] to a sustaining beam<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A thick beam laid on top of the wall to sustain further building. ');"><sup>11</sup></span>
יד אמר רב נחמן אמר רבה בר אבוה המשכיר בית לחבירו
14 or fittings for fixing planks.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cavities made of lathes alongside of the wall in which upright beams may afterwards be placed. In both these cases he shows his intention of building higher, and therefore must contribute to the cost of the whole. ');"><sup>12</sup></span> R. Huna said: [If in the part of the wall above four cubits] there are cavities,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Which would be suitable for resting cross beams in, if another wall is built opposite. ');"><sup>13</sup></span> this does not create a presumption that [the one who built it was assisted by the other], even if he made the wooden lining in the cavities; for he can plead [when claiming part payment for it from the other]: The reason why I put them In was to prevent my wall becoming damaged, should you persuade me [to let you put cross beams in].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If Reuben raises the party wall higher than four cubits, at the same time putting cavities in it, and Simeon subsequently builds a wall parallel to it, Simeon cannot point to the cavities as proof that he has paid his share for the party wall, because Reuben can say that he put them in of his own accord as a precaution. ');"><sup>14</sup></span> R. Nahman said: If a man has acquired a prescriptive right<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That is to say, if the other has allowed him to do so without protesting, and he can also plead (but without adducing proof) that he acquired the right by gift or purchase. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> to rest small beams [upon his neighbour's wall], that does not give him the right to [rest] large beams upon it, but if he has acquired the right to [rest] large beams, that does give him the right to [rest] small beams. R. Joseph, however, said that if he has acquired the right to [rest] small beams, he also has the right to [rest] large beams. According to another version, R. Nahman said that if he has acquired the right for small beams he has the right for large beams, and if he has acquired the right for large beams he has the right for small beams. R. Nahman said: If a man has a prescriptive right<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. preceding note. ');"><sup>16</sup></span> to let water drip [from his roof into his neighbour's courtyard], he also has the right to [carry it off there by means of] a gutter-pipe;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Because if the water flows down in this way it is more useful to the owner of the courtyard. ');"><sup>17</sup></span> but if he has acquired the prescriptive right to [carry it off by means of] a gutter-pipe, he has not also the right to let it drip [from the roof]. R. Joseph, however, said that if he has acquired the right to [carry it off by means of] a gutter-pipe, he has also the right to let it drip [from the roof]. According to another version, R. Nahman said that if he has acquired the prescriptive right to carry it off by a gutter-pipe, he has the right to let it drip [from the roof], but he has not the right to [let it drip from] a cone-shaped roof of reeds;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' From which the water would drip so continuously as to become a nuisance. ');"><sup>18</sup></span> whereas R. Joseph says that he has that right also. In a case which came before him, R. Joseph decided according to his own view. R. Nahman said in the name of Rabbah b. Abbuha: If a man lets an apartment to another